What was once thought true was undone by rational examination. As our tools get better we uncover more and more of the universe. We uncover the formulas by which it works. I believe that systems in so called chaos work under a formula, a law. Hopefully time will yeild new means to explore and quantify relationships within so called chaotic systems.
At some point in time we may quantify and explain the whole universe. If this is true, then with perfect precision one would plausibly view the universe at any place at any moment in time, including the future with 100% accuracy. Will that ever happen? Probably not.
And bigfoot is real.
Itchy_turd - 8/29/2006 04:19:00 PM
I'm ahead of you on this one. Don't you remember a prior thread where I brought up causality & determinism? Pseudo-chaos and pseudo-randomness only a lack of comprehension.
It would be possible, if an entity had all the information possible for any single moment in time, to know everything in the universe from the past (going back to the last Big Bang) and into the future (until the next Big Crunch). Comprehension & perception are on a relative scale.
The level of comprehension needed would be beyond human capabities. It would be possible, at some point, with strong AI. This is why we should welcome assimilation with our strong AI overlord(s), if it/they are benevolent...
Otherwise we will be reduced to helpful, tool-using cattle.
Chuck - 8/29/2006 08:19:00 PM
This idea was rooted in many of those discussions we used to have and primarily began as a reaction to the program Fractint.
I jotted that down in responce to a question a contributor to www.memetherapy.net asked me. I'm interested to see the other responces; I'm sure they are better thought out and stated more intellectually. I wrote that in the few minutes between class and school.
And sure, I'll try to come over Sunday evening when I'm off work at 8pm. I may need directions...
Itchy_turd - 8/29/2006 09:12:00 PM
b7.
0 I see.
"What is the strangest thing that you believe to be true?"
The phrasing of the question seems odd. It's not "What is the strangest thing someone could generally accept as fact?", along the lines of "The truth is stranger than fiction". It's almost like the question is going for "What is the craziest religious belief you have?" or "What wakko, un-provable conspiracy theory do you buy-in to?"...
As far as what the above question asks, I would say I believe there is some extremely bizarre, almost alien life-forms not yet discovered (at least to the public) at the bottom of the ocean. Have you ever watched a documentary about the stuff the dive-sea diving exploration vessels have taped? And we are only talking about stuff they ran across by chance on the extremely vast ocean floor and around Hydrothermal vents. They haven't even had a chance really explore the bottom of the Mariana Trench. I'm sure there is the stuff of nightmares down there...
Chuck - 11/10/2006 09:34:00 AM
Yeah, like a subduction zone.
You've probably heard about microbes that live miles down inside the earths crust living on the energy from radiation and surviving at immense pressures.
I suspect you're right about life in the trench - but doubt that life can become very complex in such harsh environments. And when I say complex, I mean able to have multiple sensory organs, or be (very) mobile.
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